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| Autore: | coma [ lun 13 gen 2014, 16:04 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga |
Players: 1401 Deck Name: WUR Midrange Position: 1 Vjeran Horvat Creatures [13] 1 Restoration Angel 1 Thundermaw Hellkite 3 Vendilion Clique 4 Geist of Saint Traft 4 Snapcaster Mage Instants [22] 2 Mana Leak 3 Cryptic Command 3 Electrolyze 3 Path to Exile 3 Remand 4 Lightning Bolt 4 Lightning Helix Lands [25] 1 Glacial Fortress 1 Island 1 Mountain 1 Plains 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Snow-Covered Island 1 Sulfur Falls 2 Hallowed Fountain 2 Steam Vents 2 Tectonic Edge 4 Arid Mesa 4 Celestial Colonnade 4 Scalding Tarn Side 2 Aven Mindcensor 1 Batterskull 1 Celestial Purge 1 Counterflux 1 Damping Matrix 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Path to Exile 1 Sowing Salt 2 Stony Silence 2 Threads of Disloyalty 1 Thundermaw Hellkite 1 Wear // Tear Deck Name: Twin Exarch Position: 2 Marcel Kachapow Creatures [15] 2 Deceiver Exarch 2 Vendilion Clique 3 Grim Lavamancer 4 Pestermite 4 Snapcaster Mage Instants [14] 2 Cryptic Command 2 Electrolyze 3 Izzet Charm 3 Remand 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [4] 4 Serum Visions Enchantments [4] 4 Splinter Twin Lands [23] 1 Desolate Lighthouse 1 Mountain 1 Stomping Ground 2 Tectonic Edge 3 Island 3 Sulfur Falls 4 Misty Rainforest 4 Scalding Tarn 4 Steam Vents Side 2 Ancient Grudge 2 Anger of the Gods 2 Batterskull 1 Dispel 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Mana Leak 3 Molten Rain 2 Relic of Progenitus 1 Remand Deck Name: UR Aggro Position: 3 Carlos Moral Creatures [15] 1 Grim Lavamancer 2 Vendilion Clique 4 Delver of Secrets 4 Snapcaster Mage 4 Young Pyromancer Instants [15] 2 Spell Pierce 2 Spell Snare 3 Vapor Snag 4 Lightning Bolt 4 Remand Sorceries [10] 2 Pillar of Flame 4 Gitaxian Probe 4 Serum Visions Lands [20] 1 Mountain 2 Mutavault 3 Steam Vents 4 Misty Rainforest 4 Scalding Tarn 6 Island Side 2 Blood Moon 1 Grim Lavamancer 1 Hibernation 2 Magma Spray 2 Negate 2 Shatterstorm 1 Spell Pierce 3 Threads of Disloyalty 1 Vendilion Clique Deck Name: Jund Position: 4 Emanuele Giusti Creatures [16] 1 Olivia Voldaren 3 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [8] 2 Abrupt Decay 2 Terminate 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [8] 2 Maelstrom Pulse 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Thoughtseize Planeswalkers [4] 4 Liliana of the Veil Lands [24] 1 Blood Crypt 1 Forest 1 Misty Rainforest 1 Stomping Ground 2 Overgrown Tomb 2 Swamp 2 Treetop Village 3 Marsh Flats 3 Raging Ravine 4 Blackcleave Cliffs 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 2 Ancient Grudge 2 Grafdigger's Cage 2 Jund Charm 2 Obstinate Baloth 1 Olivia Voldaren 2 Slaughter Games 1 Sword of Light and Shadow 1 Terminate 1 Thoughtseize 1 Thrun, the Last Troll Deck Name: Eldrazi Green Position: 5 Bernhard Wurmitzer Creatures [4] 1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 3 Wurmcoil Engine Sorceries [12] 4 Ancient Stirrings 4 Pyroclasm 4 Sylvan Scrying Planeswalkers [4] 4 Karn Liberated Artifacts [19] 3 Relic of Progenitus 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Chromatic Star 4 Expedition Map 4 Oblivion Stone Lands [21] 1 Eye of Ugin 2 Forest 2 Ghost Quarter 4 Grove of the Burnwillows 4 Urza's Mine 4 Urza's Power Plant 4 Urza's Tower Side 1 Ancient Grudge 2 Combust 1 Dismember 3 Nature's Claim 1 Spellskite 3 Stone Rain 3 Torpor Orb 1 Wurmcoil Engine Deck Name: A-Jund Position: 6 Andrej Rutar Creatures [14] 2 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [7] 1 Abrupt Decay 2 Path to Exile 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [9] 1 Maelstrom Pulse 2 Thoughtseize 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Lingering Souls Planeswalkers [6] 2 Ajani Vengeant 4 Liliana of the Veil Lands [24] 1 Arid Mesa 1 Blood Crypt 1 Forest 1 Godless Shrine 1 Island 1 Plains 1 Stomping Ground 1 Swamp 1 Temple Garden 2 Raging Ravine 2 Stirring Wildwood 3 Blackcleave Cliffs 4 Marsh Flats 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 1 Aven Mindcensor 3 Fulminator Mage 1 Grim Lavamancer 1 Jund Charm 2 Olivia Voldaren 3 Stony Silence 1 Sword of Light and Shadow 1 Thoughtseize 2 Timely Reinforcements Deck Name: The Rock Position: 7 Jeremy Dezani Creatures [15] 3 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [5] 1 Darkblast 2 Abrupt Decay 2 Dismember Sorceries [11] 1 Maelstrom Pulse 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Thoughtseize 4 Lingering Souls Planeswalkers [5] 1 Garruk Wildspeaker 4 Liliana of the Veil Lands [24] 1 Forest 1 Godless Shrine 1 Temple Garden 1 Twilight Mire 2 Overgrown Tomb 2 Swamp 4 Marsh Flats 4 Tectonic Edge 4 Treetop Village 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 3 Aven Mindcensor 2 Kataki, War's Wage 1 Seal of Primordium 2 Spellskite 2 Stony Silence 1 Thoughtseize 2 Thrun, the Last Troll 2 Torpor Orb Deck Name: A-Jund Position: 8 Robin Dolar Creatures [14] 2 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [7] 1 Abrupt Decay 2 Path to Exile 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [9] 1 Maelstrom Pulse 2 Thoughtseize 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Lingering Souls Planeswalkers [6] 2 Ajani Vengeant 4 Liliana of the Veil Lands [24] 1 Arid Mesa 1 Blood Crypt 1 Forest 1 Godless Shrine 1 Overgrown Tomb 1 Plains 1 Stomping Ground 1 Swamp 1 Temple Garden 2 Raging Ravine 2 Stirring Wildwood 3 Blackcleave Cliffs 4 Marsh Flats 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 3 Fulminator Mage 2 Grafdigger's Cage 1 Jund Charm 2 Olivia Voldaren 3 Stony Silence 1 Sword of Light and Shadow 1 Thoughtseize 2 Timely Reinforcements Deck Name: RUG Position: 9 A´kos Kenyeres Creatures [14] 2 Vendilion Clique 4 Delver of Secrets 4 Snapcaster Mage 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [19] 2 Burst Lightning 2 Cryptic Command 2 Deprive 2 Electrolyze 2 Spell Pierce 2 Spell Snare 3 Mana Leak 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [4] 4 Serum Visions Artifacts [2] 2 Vedalken Shackles Lands [21] 1 Forest 1 Mountain 1 Stomping Ground 2 Breeding Pool 2 Steam Vents 4 Misty Rainforest 4 Scalding Tarn 6 Island Side 3 Ancient Grudge 1 Batterskull 3 Blood Moon 2 Combust 2 Obstinate Baloth 2 Relic of Progenitus 2 Threads of Disloyalty Deck Name: UWr Control Position: 10 Michael Teppa Creatures [3] 3 Snapcaster Mage Instants [26] 2 Lightning Helix 2 Path to Exile 2 Sphinx's Revelation 2 Think Twice 3 Mana Leak 3 Spell Snare 4 Cryptic Command 4 Electrolyze 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [3] 1 Wrath of God 2 Supreme Verdict Planeswalkers [2] 1 Ajani Vengeant 1 Gideon Jura Lands [26] 1 Glacial Fortress 1 Mountain 1 Plains 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Sulfur Falls 2 Hallowed Fountain 2 Steam Vents 3 Arid Mesa 3 Island 3 Tectonic Edge 4 Celestial Colonnade 4 Scalding Tarn Side 2 Celestial Purge 2 Counterflux 2 Magma Spray 2 Pyroclasm 2 Relic of Progenitus 2 Sowing Salt 2 Stony Silence 1 Wear // Tear Deck Name: Jund Position: 11 Valentin Mackl Creatures [16] 2 Huntmaster of the Fells 2 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [8] 2 Abrupt Decay 2 Terminate 4 Lightning Bolt Sorceries [8] 2 Maelstrom Pulse 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Thoughtseize Planeswalkers [4] 4 Liliana of the Veil Lands [24] 1 Blood Crypt 1 Forest 1 Misty Rainforest 1 Stomping Ground 2 Overgrown Tomb 2 Raging Ravine 2 Swamp 3 Marsh Flats 3 Treetop Village 4 Blackcleave Cliffs 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 1 Ancient Grudge 2 Anger of the Gods 1 Batterskull 3 Fulminator Mage 1 Grim Lavamancer 1 Jund Charm 2 Rakdos Charm 2 Sowing Salt 1 Sword of Light and Shadow 1 Thoughtseize Deck Name: The Rock Position: 12 Lech Dutkiewicz Creatures [15] 3 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dark Confidant 4 Deathrite Shaman 4 Tarmogoyf Instants [7] 1 Putrefy 3 Abrupt Decay 3 Dismember Sorceries [8] 2 Maelstrom Pulse 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 3 Thoughtseize Planeswalkers [5] 2 Garruk Relentless 3 Liliana of the Veil Artifacts [1] 1 Batterskull Lands [24] 1 Forest 1 Twilight Mire 3 Overgrown Tomb 3 Swamp 4 Marsh Flats 4 Tectonic Edge 4 Treetop Village 4 Verdant Catacombs Side 1 Abrupt Decay 1 Damnation 1 Deglamer 2 Disfigure 4 Fulminator Mage 1 Gaze of Granite 1 Inquisition of Kozilek 1 Oxidize 2 Shadow of Doubt 1 Thrun, the Last Troll Deck Name: Birthing Pod Position: 13 Pierre Dagen Creatures [31] 1 Cunning Sparkmage 1 Fauna Shaman 1 Glen Elendra Archmage 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 1 Murderous Redcap 1 Phantasmal Image 1 Qasali Pridemage 1 Scavenging Ooze 1 Spellskite 1 Wall of Roots 1 Zealous Conscripts 2 Deceiver Exarch 2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 2 Voice of Resurgence 3 Kitchen Finks 3 Restoration Angel 4 Birds of Paradise 4 Noble Hierarch Planeswalkers [2] 2 Domri Rade Artifacts [4] 4 Birthing Pod Lands [23] 1 Breeding Pool 1 Clifftop Retreat 1 Forest 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Plains 1 Rugged Prairie 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Steam Vents 1 Stomping Ground 1 Temple Garden 2 Gavony Township 3 Arid Mesa 4 Grove of the Burnwillows 4 Misty Rainforest Side 1 Avalanche Riders 1 Aven Mindcensor 1 Fiery Justice 1 Harmonic Sliver 1 Kataki, War's Wage 2 Negate 1 Obstinate Baloth 3 Path to Exile 1 Sigarda, Host of Herons 1 Tarmogoyf 1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1 Voice of Resurgence Deck Name: Merfolks Position: 14 Lukasz Szplit Creatures [26] 2 Coralhelm Commander 2 Phantasmal Image 3 Cursecatcher 3 Master of Waves 4 Lord of Atlantis 4 Master of the Pearl Trident 4 Merrow Reejerey 4 Silvergill Adept Instants [4] 4 Vapor Snag Enchantments [6] 2 Thassa, God of the Sea 4 Spreading Seas Artifacts [4] 4 Aether Vial Lands [20] 4 Mutavault 16 Island Side 1 Damping Matrix 4 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Merfolk Assassin 2 Relic of Progenitus 2 Spell Pierce 2 Spellskite 3 Threads of Disloyalty Deck Name: Birthing Pod Position: 15 Amand Dosimont Creatures [31] 1 Glen Elendra Archmage 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 1 Murderous Redcap 1 Phantasmal Image 1 Spellskite 1 Zealous Conscripts 2 Deceiver Exarch 2 Fauna Shaman 2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 3 Restoration Angel 4 Birds of Paradise 4 Lotus Cobra 4 Magus of the Moon 4 Noble Hierarch Planeswalkers [2] 2 Domri Rade Artifacts [4] 4 Birthing Pod Lands [23] 1 Breeding Pool 1 Forest 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Island 1 Plains 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Steam Vents 1 Stomping Ground 1 Temple Garden 2 Scalding Tarn 4 Arid Mesa 4 Grove of the Burnwillows 4 Misty Rainforest Side 1 Aven Mindcensor 1 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Fiery Justice 1 Harmonic Sliver 1 Kitchen Finks 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 2 Negate 1 Obstinate Baloth 1 Qasali Pridemage 1 Scavenging Ooze 1 Sigarda, Host of Herons 1 Spellskite 1 Thrun, the Last Troll Deck Name: Infect Position: 16 Maximilien Berger Creatures [19] 1 Dryad Arbor 2 Spellskite 4 Blighted Agent 4 Glistener Elf 4 Noble Hierarch 4 Plague Stinger Instants [20] 2 Apostle's Blessing 2 Giant Growth 4 Groundswell 4 Might of Old Krosa 4 Mutagenic Growth 4 Vines of Vastwood Enchantments [2] 2 Rancor Lands [19] 2 Breeding Pool 2 Forest 2 Overgrown Tomb 2 Pendelhaven 3 Verdant Catacombs 4 Inkmoth Nexus 4 Misty Rainforest Side 2 Abrupt Decay 3 Dismember 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 4 Nature's Claim 2 Pithing Needle 1 Spellskite Complimenti ad Emanuele Giusti che arriva 4°. Sperando di aver fatto cosa gradita ciao
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| Autore: | Konx [ lun 13 gen 2014, 16:53 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga |
Vorrei aggiungere a quanto detto dal buon coma queste due liste, che se non sbaglio hanno entrambe fatto day2, e sicuramente Miller si stava giocando l'accesso alla top8 al turno 13. Le ho viste entrambe durante i feature match e a parte la bravura dei player mi sono sembrate parecchio consistenti. Jan Miller 1 Dakmor Salvage 4 Mutavault 17 Swamp 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 4 Dark Confidant 2 Funeral Charm 4 Inquisition of Kozilek 4 [card]Raven's Crime[/card] 1 Scepter of Fugue 3 Shrieking Affliction 4 Smallpox 4 The Rack 4 Thoughtseize 3 Victim of Night 4 Liliana of the Veil Sideboard 2 Darkblast 2 Extirpate 2 Ghost Quarter 4 Leyline of the Void 2 [card]Night of Souls' Betrayal[/card] 2 Scepter of Fugue 1 Victim of Night Mi sfugge l'utilita' di 2 carte qui: la salvage e lo scepter. Per il resto, quadrata. Jan van der Vegt, Tin Fists 1 Blackcleave Cliffs 1 Breeding Pool 3 City of Brass 1 Copperline Gorge 1 Creeping Tar Pit 4 Gemstone Mine 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Island 4 Misty Rainforest 1 Overgrown Tomb 1 Steam Vents 1 Stomping Ground 1 Watery Grave 4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 4 Griselbrand 3 Simian Spirit Guide 4 Sylvan Caryatid 4 Faithless Looting 4 Fist of Suns 4 [card]Goryo's Vengeance[/card] 4 Izzet Charm 2 Lightning Bolt 4 Serum Visions 1 Thoughtseize 1 Through the Breach Di questo non ho trovato la side, ma durante il coverage mi ricordo di aver visto almeno 1-2 Through the Breach aggiuntivi. Molto interessante l'idea dei Fists of Suns. In generale durante i feature match mi sono fatto l'idea che le manabase del modern sono orride e difatti uno dei topettari ha vinto una partita perche' ha fatto denial pesante con tectonic edge e molten rain + snapcaster. Mi pare strano che nessuno abbia mai tentato di buildare uno "spaccaterre". sperando di aver fatto cosa gradita ^^ Konx |
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| Autore: | Valleyman [ lun 13 gen 2014, 17:06 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga |
La salvage è abbastanza standard in una lista di pox monob. E' carina perchè uno dei problemi che affliggono quei tipi di mazzi e' che tutte le spell che hai sono simmetriche. Liliana: scartiamo ENTRAMBI, smallpox: scartiamo e sacchiamo una terra ENTRAMBI. Questo alle volte ti puo' portare in situazioni del tipo : hai spell ( tipicamente removal ) che vuoi tenerti in mano e la terra che ti servira' per castarla sempre in mano e tiri uno smallpox. Se scarti la rimozione e lui fa creatura ti mangi le mani, se scarti la terra e lui fa creatura e tu non peschi la terra ti mangi le mani uguale. Dakmor Salvage risolve questi problemi. La scarti ( o la sacchi ) e se ti serve te la riprendi dragando. Inoltre è sinergica con Raven's Crime. In questa maniera ottimizzi quella carta. Non solo se vuoi vedere una carta che funziona dal cesso quanto dalla mano è meglio dragare X che pescare 1 ( con X > 1 ) ma in piu' dakmor salvage ti permette di attivare ogni turno raven's crime. Lo scettro penso sia per la stesso motivo. Tenere l'avversario a 0 carte in mano costantemente. |
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| Autore: | coma [ lun 13 gen 2014, 17:52 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga |
Bravo bella idea hai fatto cosa gradita ahahah Scherzi a parte io ti posso solo parlare della lista con emrakulo perchè l'ho giocata: al momento è ingiocabile proprio per il motivo che hai detto ossia il denial. Carina la Sylvan Caryatid come acceleratore e carina anche l'idea di fist of suns, il punto è che però come già prima, se non passi da animino, e devi vederlo..., hai bisogno di 5 mana per tirare la bomba e quelli non li avra mai contro un rock/jund. poi rock a 2 colori si permette più denial con fulminator di main e non ci arrivi mai più Perchè il rsto dell'hate lo gestisci bene o male. tutto qui
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